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Pup Jet: What is the difference between puppies and furries?

This post is part 3 of 4 in the series Differences Between Puppies & Furries.

 

 

 

In the continuing effort to explore this discussion, I have had with a few pups I know about the differences between pups and furries, we are going to turn now to Pup Jet.

I will have to admit that I don’t know him as well as I would like, we have talked a good deal via IM and have met a few times now at events, but haven’t had the chance to really spend much time with him! I am looking forward to, however, for one simple reason. Having once been a pup myself I learned to trust my instincts, especially when sniffing out genuine people, and this pup is one of them. The kind of person that wants nothing from anyone other than to be treated well, and has no agenda other than to be a good pup and a good boy. I like that, and think that many people, including myself, can learn from that. I am very much looking forward to seeing him again soon at IML.

Pup Jet

Pup JetI have been asked to write a short bit about my feeling on the differences between pup play and furry. Let me start by saying read rubberfiendʼs and Pup Donʼs posts first. While I have my own take on things but they did a wonderful job and I will reference their work in here.

I am a gay rubber pup who is also a fur. Unlike rubberfiend, I found rubber/kink first, then came out to myself many years later, and then not long after discovered furry. So while it is a slightly different road than he or others may have taken the path to understanding who oneself led to similar places.

To me the key point that both rubberfiend and Pup Don have already stated is that there is a relation between the two, I really liked Pup Donʼs use of the term “cousins”. These two groups are the same yet quite different and both are unique in their respective sub cultures. While both have suffered repression from outside and more painfully from within.

This pup sees pup play (and pet play in general) within the kink community as a release, a focusing on being true to one’s inner self. Be that a desire to guard/protect, preform for, or just love and obey your handler/owner (for myself it is the latter). Now, this is NOT the same as a boy/submissive being made to act like a dog, that’s another topic entirely, where I come from it is the desire of the pup to be that, a pup. This desire comes from deep within, and the first time I was able to be a rubber pup for a friend I knew instantly within it was who I am. Feeling that unconditional devotion and desire to care for my handler as well as the deep caring given to me by my handler. As rubberfiend stated: pup play is more tied to the D/s dynamic. For myself, just putting on my pup gear (hood, mitts, etc.) brings me into that mindset of the k9 wanting to please his handler & wanting to be the 6ʼ3” lapdog that I am. Hey! Great Danes think they are lap dogs, why can’t I? Don’t knock it ;)

As a fur, I see myself part of a vast yet distinct diverse community. One that unlike many groups celebrates diversity and accepts more so than most. Furry for me is a social release of that k9 side, I can be with friends who are like minded and release into a care free and creative environment. The connection to the inner self is also there for some furs, a feeling of association with their animal side, a release of that side of their personality. However one can also look at it as a way to simply express one’s self using an animal persona. The one key difference is basically put, it is not all about sex, it is about being one’s self. Oh sure there is sex (there is a good bit of that), talk about sex, and well more X-rated art then you can shake a bone at (far more then IML). But deep down it is a way to connect with your inner self, a release and an escape from the impressed norm.

Now sure it is not all people holding hands singing around a camp fire in harmony. There are clicks, niches, sub cultures, and behaviors that are not accepted; but generally I have yet to meet a more accepting group of people. I have found in the gay kink community a lack of acceptance of heterosexual kinky couples yet, I find negligible differentiation in the furry community about sexual orientation.

I recently saw a bit of art on DeviantArt [link] about tolerance. I for one try to accept my fellow pup, wolf, fox, & even kat no matter if they are in leather, rubber, or fur. To you I say WOOF!

*wags*

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Rubberfiend: What is the difference between puppies and furries?

This post is part 2 of 4 in the series Differences Between Puppies & Furries.

We are going to continue with the discussion of the differences between pup play and furries by hearing from another pup friend of mine, rubberfiend. He was one of the very first pups I ever played with as a Trainer, and since that time, he has remained one of the most special pups I have met. He has a heart of gold and a great way of articulating his thoughts on his kink, so I wanted to share with you all his thoughts.

 

rubberfiend

rubberfiendI vividly remember the first time I let out my inner puppy.

I was on all fours, wearing a skintight pewter-colored latex catsuit, and had just been commanded to bark. Not a half-assed, onomatopoeic bark that people utter as an imitation of the real vocalizations of a dog, but a REAL bark; one that could only come from some primitive, instinctual part of the brain. Now, I can’t say that my first attempt was entirely successful–the truth is, it was actually pretty lousy. I let out a meek, still-too-human “bark,” while trying to stifle my nervous, self-conscious laughter.

The realization that my snickering signified that I hadn’t really let go of my inhibitions and insecurities helped me to overcome them. Soon enough, I was barking like I meant it, because I really DID mean it.

*WWRRRRUFF!!* And that was the moment I truly became a pup.

Now, I don’t mean to say that being a pup is about achieving an accurate rendition of a dog’s bark, or that a pup is defined by what he wears or even how he behaves. Pup play is an intensely personal and ultimately individually variable experience, one that means different things to different pups. So I can only speak for myself.

More recently, this puppy has become interested in the “furry fandom”– a rather eclectic group of individuals, many of whom seem to share similar traits to my personal understanding of pup play. And several other pups have also noticed the parallels, so it seems only natural to ask what distinguishes the two. But owing to the very diverse notions of what is “furry” and what is “puppy,” it’s not something we can expect to reasonably pin down–nor should we try.

I identified myself as gay before I understood I was also kinky. I identified myself as kinky before I understood I was also a pup. And I identified as a pup before I understood I am also, to some extent, a fur. Like the proverbial story of the blind men and the elephant, all of these terms are simply different aspects to the entirety of who I am, different ways for me to relate to the world, and for the world to relate to me. Yet they remain distinct concepts–I don’t conflate “pup” and “furry” any more than one should confuse “gay” and “kinky”– after all, there are vanilla gays, and kinky straights. And there are those like me–gay and kinky. I trust that a Venn diagram is not a required visual aid for this discussion.

To me, what ultimately distinguishes the notions of “puppy play” and “furry fandom”–other than the fact that furs don’t necessarily identify with canids–is that puppy play is, at its core, about wanting to relate to and express oneself in a particular way to another individual. That individual might be described as a “handler,” “owner,” “master,” or “alpha,” but the relationship fundamentally remains along the lines of “I am devoted to and endeavor to obey you, and in return, you treat me with kindness and respect for the trust I have placed in you.” It is a manifestation of the dominance/submission dynamic, yet in a way that is not centered about punishment and reward but rather affection, encouragement, and loyalty.

By contrast, a fur need not view anthropomorphism, or their spiritual identification as an animal, as being defined by how they desire the guidance and love of another. A furry fox or cat may even view themselves as being fiercely independent, for instance. A fur’s path to self-understanding generally tends toward a much greater focus on the real animal species; a furry wolf might have started collecting various iconographic representations of wolves (photographs, drawings, stuffed animals, figurines, etc.) from an early age, and the desire to be like a wolf is the goal in itself, rather than in the case of pup play, where the puppy behavior is a vehicle for relating to a human “owner.”

However, there’s a lot of overlap, and I think that there is far more that unites pups and furs than what sets us apart. Many (but not all) of us carry a sexual component with respect to our self-identified natures. We are nearly universally interested in the pleasure of feeling free of societal expectations as well as the self- consciousness and introspection of being human. We yearn to bring out a spirit of playfulness that would otherwise be suppressed for fear of being ridiculed or despised. And of course, we each identify with a type of animal instinct, whether as a metaphor for expressing ourselves, or out of a belief that we are an animal trapped in human form.

Sadly, perhaps the one thing that pups and furs share most in common is the perception among the ignorant that we are deviant and therefore only worthy of scorn. Even worse, there are those in each group that holds prejudices against the other, which, if it were possible, makes even less sense. For we should be more united and accepting and mutually understanding of each other, because we are in fact very much alike as I have pointed out here.

Life has far more potential to be meaningful than to waste it on despising what you don’t understand, worrying constantly about what others might think of you, and letting yourself be discouraged from exploring who you truly are inside. That’s the secret to making your bark genuine.

 

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Pup Don: What is the difference between puppies and furries?

This post is part 2 of 4 in the series Differences Between Puppies & Furries.

Recently, I was at a my friends (Rubberassylum) for the NW Rubber Weekend Winter play party, which was a damn good time? (video coming very soon). At one point in the middle of the weekend, late at night, Rubberasylumbound and I headed out to the hot tub (in wetsuits of course) and were joined by KinkiDiver and Bodisama.

The conversation turned to the subject of furries, and Rubberasylum asked me a question, “You were a pup at one time; do you see a difference between pups and furies, or is it just the same thing?” What followed was an interesting conversation for a bit that I have been wanting to get back to because it felt unresolved. We never finished the conversation due to lack of sleep and the cold outside, ending before I could hear everyone’s thoughts, and it has stuck in the head since.

So, I have turned to of my own friends who are pups and furries to tell me their views. What are the differences, if any? Is a pup just a type of furry? Do both approach the headspace the same way? There are pups who are furries (or are they furries that are pups); do they feel at home in both communities?

I have put the question to some of my friends, and will be sharing what they wrote here in the blog.

First up:

Pup Don

pup don“I’ve always believed the leather dogs and the furries to be cousins, because while there are differences, there is certainly a lot of crossover as well. From what I understand the furries see themselves as animals in human bodies who prefer dressing in costumes that more closely resemble the bodies they would prefer to have. The leather dogs, or pups as a lot of us are called, see ourselves as human dogs. When I go into a pup headspace I take on the mindset and characteristics of a canine yet my body is still mine. I may use some gear to get me into that headspace, such as fist mits to render my human hands to be more like paws, and a butt plug tail, yet these all accentuate my human body the way leathermen wear leather in a play scene. However, I know there are some furries who love leather gear and I know some pups who don’t feel complete without leather or rubber pup hoods and full body gear.

So, while some things do cross over, I think it’s more in the way we see ourselves in this alternate existence we delve into that makes us different.”

 

See Pup Don at either Facebook or on his Recon profile.

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